WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DIVIDE THIS EPIC RESPONSE INTO TWO PARTS: GUNDAM WING AND FFIV.
First!
Everything you said about sex and porn basically. yes. I like sex with ~issues~. I love dark!porn. Because sex isn't always great and it can be used to send a lot of messages, and I find that really awesome.
Although I ALSO like it when the twisted mindfuck issues end up... being a positive, or helping people out, or making a relationship more than it was before? It isn't all about poking characters with pointy sticks (although, uh, I like that also, A LOT) -- I like when the dark places inside characters match up with each other so no matter how fucked up they are, they find they're infinitely better with their also-fucked-up partner than alone. Like? I think I am probably explaining this poorly, but an extreme example is what I like about incest-ish pairings: it isn't about the incesty sex, I don't find *that* hot -- it's about the extreme mindfuck and how two characters can twist "family issues" into something else, and assuming both are consensual, a broken relationship can be healed - IN A WAY THAT'S REALLY BROKEN ITSELF. It's the bad/good/better than the alternative/best of two shitty options mindfuck that I like. THIS PARAGRAPH HAS DERAILED. MOVING ON.
But yes -- although every now and then I find I just want fluff or PWP, what I REALLY ENJOY is sex that has BAGGAGE.
Heero and Zechs! We have not touched on them yet! WE SHOULD TOUCH THEM MORE. But yeah, I like the way that they play off of each other - the whole thing with Zechs having Wing Zero and Heero having Epyon and them fucking trading was GOD MY MIND IT IS BLOWN on so many cool levels. I was just like, I AM GAY FOR THIS AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. Not in a pairing sense, just in like - oh, that's a meaningful benchmark for both of them. Especially Heero, who has gone from HEY LETS SELF DESTRUCT NOW to this very respectful and understanding warrior. It's like when he gives Quatre the Zero System and tells him to lead the battle, because Heero knows he'll be elsewhere, off with Zechs. Because that's important. WHAT IS THIS: MY MIND.
And Treize as the weird third player in it, with all the Treize/Zechs (oh I saw it) and the Epyon and Wufei and, yeah.
OKAY ON TO FINAL FANTASY IV
I'll start by sending you my thoughts on Edge/Rydia/Kain, because here they are: Momentum, and I don't mean it as a rec in that MY STUFF IS AWESOME (mehhhhhhh), but I could try to explain why I dig it and I would basically just end up writing everything I've put into that piece right there. It's Edge-centric because there isn't enough Edge love in fandom, but it ends up being really about Kain a lot. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KAIN DOES. Just through other people's eyes. (There is a follow-up piece too but it's mostly Kain/Cecil porn. XD)
As for Rydia and Rosa -- well, first, I am working on (stalled out, actually) a really long Rosa-centric piece. Because I really do like her, and I think she's a lot more than just "Queen" and "Cecil's honey", and she gets the short end of the stick in FFIV because she's such a static character: all of the changes that have made Rosa who she is happened before the game, and she's presented as a constant: Cecil's rock, a solid support character. Rydia, on the other hand, is so dynamic of a character her sprite actually changes: this is significant. So you have one character whose life has been turned upside down, and another who - while Rosa has been through a lot, *she* has maybe grown but hasn't changed. And I think they'd connect over that, in a friendly envious sort of way: Rydia wants some of Rosa's stability, and Rosa wants some of Rydia's freedom. If you can't tell I am also highly gay for this pairing; it's one of my favorites and I don't write it nearly enough.
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First!
Everything you said about sex and porn basically. yes. I like sex with ~issues~. I love dark!porn. Because sex isn't always great and it can be used to send a lot of messages, and I find that really awesome.
Although I ALSO like it when the twisted mindfuck issues end up... being a positive, or helping people out, or making a relationship more than it was before? It isn't all about poking characters with pointy sticks (although, uh, I like that also, A LOT) -- I like when the dark places inside characters match up with each other so no matter how fucked up they are, they find they're infinitely better with their also-fucked-up partner than alone. Like? I think I am probably explaining this poorly, but an extreme example is what I like about incest-ish pairings: it isn't about the incesty sex, I don't find *that* hot -- it's about the extreme mindfuck and how two characters can twist "family issues" into something else, and assuming both are consensual, a broken relationship can be healed - IN A WAY THAT'S REALLY BROKEN ITSELF. It's the bad/good/better than the alternative/best of two shitty options mindfuck that I like. THIS PARAGRAPH HAS DERAILED. MOVING ON.
But yes -- although every now and then I find I just want fluff or PWP, what I REALLY ENJOY is sex that has BAGGAGE.
Heero and Zechs! We have not touched on them yet! WE SHOULD TOUCH THEM MORE. But yeah, I like the way that they play off of each other - the whole thing with Zechs having Wing Zero and Heero having Epyon and them fucking trading was GOD MY MIND IT IS BLOWN on so many cool levels. I was just like, I AM GAY FOR THIS AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. Not in a pairing sense, just in like - oh, that's a meaningful benchmark for both of them. Especially Heero, who has gone from HEY LETS SELF DESTRUCT NOW to this very respectful and understanding warrior. It's like when he gives Quatre the Zero System and tells him to lead the battle, because Heero knows he'll be elsewhere, off with Zechs. Because that's important. WHAT IS THIS: MY MIND.
And Treize as the weird third player in it, with all the Treize/Zechs (oh I saw it) and the Epyon and Wufei and, yeah.
OKAY ON TO FINAL FANTASY IV
I'll start by sending you my thoughts on Edge/Rydia/Kain, because here they are: Momentum, and I don't mean it as a rec in that MY STUFF IS AWESOME (mehhhhhhh), but I could try to explain why I dig it and I would basically just end up writing everything I've put into that piece right there. It's Edge-centric because there isn't enough Edge love in fandom, but it ends up being really about Kain a lot. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT KAIN DOES. Just through other people's eyes. (There is a follow-up piece too but it's mostly Kain/Cecil porn. XD)
As for Rydia and Rosa -- well, first, I am working on (stalled out, actually) a really long Rosa-centric piece. Because I really do like her, and I think she's a lot more than just "Queen" and "Cecil's honey", and she gets the short end of the stick in FFIV because she's such a static character: all of the changes that have made Rosa who she is happened before the game, and she's presented as a constant: Cecil's rock, a solid support character. Rydia, on the other hand, is so dynamic of a character her sprite actually changes: this is significant. So you have one character whose life has been turned upside down, and another who - while Rosa has been through a lot, *she* has maybe grown but hasn't changed. And I think they'd connect over that, in a friendly envious sort of way: Rydia wants some of Rosa's stability, and Rosa wants some of Rydia's freedom. If you can't tell I am also highly gay for this pairing; it's one of my favorites and I don't write it nearly enough.