lol? except not

[seventhe]

So not only did I have an asthma attack so bad I fell off had to get off the treadmill and sit in the corner until I could breathe again... I hurt my knee.

It has hurt for a while, but my sneakers were old, and I've been writing it off because of that.

oops. Looks like I might have IBTS. I'll find out tomorrow when I see if it's still sore.


aaaaaaaaaaaawesome this bodes well for 8 miles


I refuse to let my stupid body own me. I still managed 5 miles today (4 before, 1 in absolute agony), at a 6mph pace. If I cut back a little and add some elliptical, I bet I can keep training.

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[shanaqui]

*snugs* Good luck with that.

[yukie]

Aw god jeez arhgh shitfuck ow. D:

I don't have asthma but I do have chronic lungstupid that is usually not so bad but form time to time goes "Oh, y the way *BACKHAND!*" so - yeah.

D: I hope you feel better soon man. Pissy lungs are no fun.

[katmillia.livejournal.com]

Don't kill yourself!! D: D:

I'm so impressed that even with all these setbacks, you are still out there kicking so much ass (esp. mine because you are light years faster than I will probably ever hope to be lol). You are such an inspiration. ♥

[first-seventhe.livejournal.com]

fffffffffff being fast IS THE PROBLEM: I am an idiot who can't bear to go under 6mph, even though that's when I have asthma attacks. You'd think I am WAY smarter than this, or I should be >.>

WE CAN RUN TOGETHER VERY, VERY SOON!

[katmillia.livejournal.com]

Oh no, I can never in my entire life run anything under about 10 mph, so there is no way I can run with you! You are too fast for me. :(

[katmillia.livejournal.com]

Also can you tell it was really early (to me) when I wrote this cause I went the wrong way with the numbers. LOL what I meant to say was I can't run anything much at 6mph for more than like .2 miles cause I suck.

[divka.livejournal.com]

Ugh. I'm finally back to running after months of ankle issues.

Be kind to yourself.

[rosencrantz.livejournal.com]

I forgot, you run with injuries too! Double postin' for you then:

barefoot running debate:

Runner's World article

VFF shoe site (just so you can see what they are)

Just because I'm actually getting a pair of VFFs for pregnancy + "my problem left foot can't wear anything but Crocs right now" purposes, so I can tell you whether or not the barefoot shoes are all hype or actually more comfortable than normal shoes in a few months.

[divka.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I wear orthotics for my right foot. I'll have to read about this and see if it an option with my wonky foot.

I've seen pairs before but don't know a lot about them.

[darcenciel.livejournal.com]

My husband has been considering getting a pair of those for a while cause we've heard good things about them, but we haven't tried them out yet.

[drakonlily.livejournal.com]

... BE SAFE

[rosencrantz.livejournal.com]

As a side note, I am as far away from marathon running as a 5 1/2 month pregnant woman can be, but due to said fact have been looking into comfortable footwear and stumbled across the whole Vibram Five Fingers Barefoot Running movement thing.

I'm already getting my parents to ship me a pair (it's cheaper in the US than in Europe), but it does make me think - you know how obsessive compulsively I research stuff before I do it - if you run more than 3 miles a day and you're having knee problems, you might want to consider nerd-searching barefoot running, too. There's a metric shitton of debate about whether or not it solves or creates problems, especially in distance runners, but it's a bit like the raw feeding of pets debate. Some people like it and some people don't.

At any rate, they also have "in-between" non-completely-barefoot flatfooted-running shoes thrown into the debate. If you're getting running injuries I thought I'd pass that along for you... in maybe 2 or 3 months, I can also pass along for you whether the toe-shoes really are more comfortable or not, at the least.

[rosencrantz.livejournal.com]

Helpful links to that whole debate:

Runner's World article

VFF shoe site (just so you can see what they are)

[first-seventhe.livejournal.com]

Man, I have seen a TON of people in runners talking about VFFs!! Please let me know what you think of them -- I am very much intrigued.

[rosencrantz.livejournal.com]

My absolute first thought after deciding to buy them is that they are literally a gazoogle less expensive than running shoes ($75), and the last time I actually ran distance was in high school (but they're still less expensive).

If you're going to experiment and you need new shoes anyway, these are definitely a cheapie alternative to running shoes. The bad news is if you're not used to running in them, according to other runners, you need acclimation time so you'll still need your old running shoes to do long distances for roughly 2-3 weeks. Local runner guru ninja info says if you start with VFFs, wear them for 15 minute runs for the first few days and up your time slowly, don't do your power run all at once or you'll just end up in pain.

Even cheaper cheapie alternatives (though acclimation rates are the same, 15 minutes at first) to this are thick socks with duct tape on the bottoms, moccassins, or $10 aqua shoes with the cheap insoles replaced with those of your liking.

If you don't like being so low-budget and hippie about the whole thing - and when it comes to running, I can 100% understand this, btw, that isn't sarcasm - apparently VFF are now making a new specifically for runners "with a bit thicker soles" type of toe-shoe just this year. I also heard the price is something like $130 for them, though, which puts them in the same price range as "normal" running shoes, which makes me go "eehhh, why experiment for that much."

Mostly I was won over because of the side commentary from runners that they love the VFFs for NOT running - for weight lifting especially, but also for doing boring ass things like going shopping or walking your dog, without worrying about getting glass in your feet or meeting health code standards in places that require shoes. If you lift, definitely look into the VFFs, though, runners are split on the barefoot issue, but weightlifters seem to be uniformly gung-ho about the benefits of toe-shoes.

[jennyclarinet.livejournal.com]

I mentioned those shoes to my runner brother and his gf. They both have heard that chiropractors love them because running with those shoes wrecks people's backs. I was intrigued by the article though and tried running barefoot on the treadmill a few months ago. My feet only lasted half a mile.

[rosencrantz.livejournal.com]

I should point out two mitigating factors for myself personally:

I don't plan on running in these, if anything I'm a day hiker and trekker, not a jogger. More importantly, I had an operation on the top of my left foot about two years ago that's made me have to seriously search for shoe alternatives even just for everyday purposes.

This summer, it got so bad for me I actually did resort to walking my dog barefoot one day, and I can tell you that it was a really painful experience. Not because of my legs or the way I was walking - actually, that was one of the few days my problem foot did not give me problems! - but because I didn't have toughened callouses on the soles of my feet. I felt every little tiny stone on the asphalt I'd walk across, every pointy bit of cobblestone, every sharp twig in the forest, every thorn mixed into the fur fir (bad spelling for the win). I cut my walk short that day as well, the bottom of my feet were just too tender after half an hour to go any further.

On the other hand, I have also out of desperation walked my dog through the forests in my hand-made "show" middle ages leather shoes. These are simply a piece of 5mm thick leather dyed black and cleverly sewn to close around the feet, laced with a piece of leather. There is no sole, there is no insole, there is no padding, and there is not even a differentiation between the leather of the "upper" shoe and the leather between your foot and the ground. It's just... wrapping your foot in a piece of tanned cowskin, really.

That was also one of the most comfortable walks I ever had. I still felt most of the stuff on the ground, but the leather between me and the surface of the pavement was just thick enough so that I didn't feel every damn thing I stepped on and have to skip around in pain. I also had no foot problems on that day. Sadly, the show shoe construction is such that I can't wear them through forest paths without getting all sorts of crap and sand and twigs stuck in them, and with the leather lacing there's no easy way to just chuck off the shoe and dump it out.

However, these experiences are what convinced me to try out these toe-shoes. I do have closed, traditional, expensive Columbia brand trail shoes that I personally consider to be extremely comfortable - even as trail shoes, I never needed to "break them in" for long hikes, they fit my feet like a glove from day one. And yet, even though they feel comfortable, my left foot inevitably gets serious problems that require daily, painful massages to work away if I wear them for any of my dog walks that last for more than an hour.

Desperation, they say, it'll lead you to try anything. :P

[darcenciel.livejournal.com]

AHHHHH if your knee hurts, DO NOT RUN!!!!!

I hurt my knee a few years ago (landed wrong on it running down a hill) but it wasn't so bad so I kept running. It got so bad a few months later that I couldn't bend my knee, and I was out for about a year. It sucks to not be able to run for a year.

[jennyclarinet.livejournal.com]

Yeah, be careful with the knees! Unfortunately, overtraining is easy to do. I guess this means the Winking Lizard run won't be a go on the 10th? It's fine with me if we don't do it, but if you guys are still in, I'm in.

Hope your knees feel better and your lungs stop crapping out!